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Comments for In Scientio, Veritas https://www.inscientioveritas.org At the intersection of science and life Thu, 31 Oct 2019 17:50:54 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.5 Comment on Homeopathy: Diluted out of existence? by admin https://www.inscientioveritas.org/homeopathy-diluted-out-of-existence/comment-page-1/#comment-1697 Thu, 31 Oct 2019 17:50:54 +0000 http://www.scilogs.com/in_scientio_veritas/homeopathy_diluted_out_of_existence/#comment-1697 In reply to Kay.

You are free to believe whatever you want, reader Kay. Your concern is noted. I wish you a good day.

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Comment on Homeopathy: Diluted out of existence? by admin https://www.inscientioveritas.org/homeopathy-diluted-out-of-existence/comment-page-1/#comment-1696 Thu, 31 Oct 2019 17:49:43 +0000 http://www.scilogs.com/in_scientio_veritas/homeopathy_diluted_out_of_existence/#comment-1696 In reply to Kay.

A lot many words later—complete with an appeal to authority and exhortations to “scientific open mind”—still no solid, tangible and reproducible empirical evidence which demonstrates within reason that either the purported principle of homeopathy, or oft-repeated claims of clinical efficacy of such nostra, should be considered with any amount of seriousness. Typical.

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Comment on “Water memory” – a myth that wouldn’t die by admin https://www.inscientioveritas.org/water-memory-myth-that-wouldnt-die/comment-page-2/#comment-1695 Thu, 31 Oct 2019 17:40:35 +0000 http://www.scilogs.com/in_scientio_veritas/water_memory_myth_that_wouldnt_die/#comment-1695 In reply to Arazi Pinhas.

Waxing philosophical in the comments is all very fine, but tangible and reproducible evidence for the phenomenon in question is STILL lacking. [Yawn!]

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Comment on Homeopathy: Diluted out of existence? by Kay https://www.inscientioveritas.org/homeopathy-diluted-out-of-existence/comment-page-1/#comment-1694 Tue, 24 Sep 2019 02:30:40 +0000 http://www.scilogs.com/in_scientio_veritas/homeopathy_diluted_out_of_existence/#comment-1694 I notice that the admin for this site, also insists on ignoring evidence on this phenomena, thus leading me to believe the site has an interest in debunking it. I request the author and the site admin to declare in this thread any conflict of interest they may have in this exploration.

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Comment on Homeopathy: Diluted out of existence? by Kay https://www.inscientioveritas.org/homeopathy-diluted-out-of-existence/comment-page-1/#comment-1693 Tue, 24 Sep 2019 02:24:47 +0000 http://www.scilogs.com/in_scientio_veritas/homeopathy_diluted_out_of_existence/#comment-1693 This blog fails to understand the basic principles of homeopathy.
It ridicules the notion that there being no detectable ‘substance’ or the original material remedy left in the homeopathic solution, using this as ‘evidence’ that it could not possibly have any effect on the physical body.
The writer fails to extend his curiosity to look to understand this phenomena and consider the progress scientific research has made in the field of energy, quantum physics and patterning of substances.
Two hundred years ago if we talked about radiation waves, it would have sounded nonsensical, as we had not yet developed tools which could detect them.
Thus is it with vital force. the fact that modern science has not yet devised a means to measure it, does not mean it is any the less a fundamental formative force effecting human health.
Professor Madeleine Ennis of Queen’s University Belfast was, like most scientists, deeply sceptical that a medicinal compound diluted out of existence should still exert a therapeutic effect is an affront to conventional biochemistry and pharmacology, based as they are on direct and palpable molecular events. So she conducted her own experiments to prove this, and found to her surprise that the results were not as she expected.
Despite my reservations against the science of homoeopathy,” says Ennis, “the results compel me to suspend my disbelief and to start searching for a rational explanation for our findings.” ttps://www.theguardian.com/science/2001/mar/15/technology2

Perhaps the author of this blog could also take a scientific open mind about the subject and acknowledge there is empirical evidence, there is emerging scientific evidence and that the world of science may still be in infancy of its ability to understand such phenomena. Without an open mind, the eyes cannot see what is in front of them no more than a deluded mind can.

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Comment on “Water memory” – a myth that wouldn’t die by Arazi Pinhas https://www.inscientioveritas.org/water-memory-myth-that-wouldnt-die/comment-page-2/#comment-1689 Wed, 14 Aug 2019 19:11:35 +0000 http://www.scilogs.com/in_scientio_veritas/water_memory_myth_that_wouldnt_die/#comment-1689 In reply to Kausik Datta.

You need to learn to distinguish between observation and explanation. You cannot combine them. You cannot combine them such that if there is no adequate explanation, the observation too is wrong.

You can conduct an experiment, from which arises an observation. Theorising about the mechanisms behind such a finding is the next task. Observing the greenness of grass is different from attempts to explain its greenness.

The researchers of water memory are presenting observations. The way in which information may be stored in water to produce such observations is a different exercise. And the detailed explanation is the most challenging part.

Consider the color of grass. The individual observes the color to be green. If an individual cannot offer a working explanation of grass’ greenness, does it make the observation any less true? What of love? You certainly feel it, but can you truly explain it?

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Comment on Homeopathy: Diluted out of existence? by admin https://www.inscientioveritas.org/homeopathy-diluted-out-of-existence/comment-page-1/#comment-1688 Fri, 11 Jan 2019 17:47:07 +0000 http://www.scilogs.com/in_scientio_veritas/homeopathy_diluted_out_of_existence/#comment-1688 In reply to ca07138d11c6c31.

I can’t make certain whether this is a spam comment or not, but I shall allow it because it presents a particular perspective. My tl;dr response: I disagree. A slightly longer response: “There is a danger in judging historical developments in the light of the latest scientific knowledge.” This statement ignores how our collective knowledge of science progresses. As you wrote yourself, the hypothesis of vitalism, in vogue until the 19th century CE, has been refuted via empirical evidence, and its rightful place now is in the trash heap of history. I, a product of the 20th century CE, see vitalism as mythical in that context, because its tenets fail to pass the smell-test of plausibility, especially given what we know now. I shall quote the Sagan standard (1979) here: “extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence”. (Yes, I am aware of Deming’s critique of it, but I disagree.)

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Comment on Homeopathy: Diluted out of existence? by ca07138d11c6c31 https://www.inscientioveritas.org/homeopathy-diluted-out-of-existence/comment-page-1/#comment-1687 Sat, 05 Jan 2019 15:45:20 +0000 http://www.scilogs.com/in_scientio_veritas/homeopathy_diluted_out_of_existence/#comment-1687 Your comment on Homeopathy is spot on. However, calling the idea of a vital force “mythical” is simply wrong. It was a common scientific explanation for the special properties of living matter until the 19th century, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitalism, held among many others by such luminaries as Johannes Müller and Louis Pasteur. “Biologists now consider vitalism in this sense to have been refuted by empirical evidence, and hence regard it as a superseded scientific theory.” (Wikipedia) Just because something has been disproven since doesn’t make it unscientific from the start. There is a danger in judging historical developments in the light of the latest scientific knowledge.

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Comment on Homeopathy in Hemorrhoids: ouch or aahh? by admin https://www.inscientioveritas.org/homeopathy-in-hemorrhoids-ouch-or-aahh/comment-page-1/#comment-1677 Thu, 25 Oct 2018 18:09:52 +0000 http://www.scilogs.com/in_scientio_veritas/homeopathy_in_hemorrhoids_ouch_or_aahh/#comment-1677 In reply to drrazahealthblog.

Ayurvedic ≠ homeopathy. I hope you are not suggesting otherwise. Herbal medicines like Ayurvedic likely contain essential chemical substances of plant origin, and many of those substances may well be pharmacoactive. Whether they are actually effective in a clinical setting is a different question altogether, because PK/PD parameters will apply to any pharmacoactive substance regardless of its source.

On the other hand, classical homeopathy with dilutions beyond 12C or 24X contains no active principle.

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Comment on Homeopathy in Hemorrhoids: ouch or aahh? by drrazahealthblog https://www.inscientioveritas.org/homeopathy-in-hemorrhoids-ouch-or-aahh/comment-page-1/#comment-1676 Tue, 23 Oct 2018 07:28:53 +0000 http://www.scilogs.com/in_scientio_veritas/homeopathy_in_hemorrhoids_ouch_or_aahh/#comment-1676 Yes. You are right that most of the hemorrhoids heals on its own. Personally I believe that in initial stage of piles only some changes in diet and lifestyle are sufficient to cure this problem. Yes it is true that if not taken care timely this problem of piles may get worse and complicated. As being an ayurvedic physician i must say that i have treated so many piles patients successfully with ayurvedic piles medicine

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